The release of the Panasonic S1 marks a new lineage for the manufacturer and the first to feature a full-frame sensor. ... this video review takes a look at the new Panasonic S1H ... the S1 … its_a_knife: I agree that Sony should offer 10 bit video, but on the other hand Sony is selling a lot more cameras then Panasonic does. Panasonic; Reviews; Panasonic Lumix S1 Review: On the road with a stack of L-mount and M-mount lenses. The S1 is big, heavy and solid. I keep saying that it's not really relevant for this camera as people buy it mostly for stills and very few buy it primarily for video only. The Signal to noise test measures the clarity of images at key ISO sensitivities. I do not think Panasonic expected a lot of sold cameras, and are aiming at a niche market, just as they do with their GHx cameras... Now I can say that Dpreview does not hate Pentax itself. I have owned Panasonic gear since the 70s, from a radio cassette recorder to audio visual (National Panasonic/Technics/JVC - once owned by Matsushita Electric, who are now Panasonic), the GH2, various compacts, GX8 (best form factor ever), LX100 Mk1 etc. Panasonic Lumix DC-S1R sensor review. It's undoubtedly snappy enough to deliver sharp shots of fast-moving subjects, but it doesn't make it as easy as the Sony A7 III or Nikon Z 6 as the tracking isn't as reliable. I'm not quite sure any pro would switch right now. The S1/S1R are aimed a bit higher in the market for the average entry level shooter. You'll like it if you're a pro, you'll hate it if you're an enthusiast. Actually, why bother with all this nonsense when the new Samsung Note 10 is on the horizon? It is like a Lebron James on one end of the see saw and Muggsy Bogues on the other end. It is reviews such as this that presumably sent Olympus (Pen-F) and Panasonic (GX8) down the wrong track with side hinged fully articulated lcd units. Does the new Lumix S1 have what it takes to compete with the likes of the Sony A7 III, Nikon Z6 and Canon EOS R? So, why don’t I highly recommend it? Its controls take some getting used to, but the S1 offers a superb blend of direct and touch-control. Take a closer look. how come you can't tell the difference between that and Thoughts R Us calling sony owners "annoying online tr*lls". AF-C: Although good for most uses, The A7III does better with more FPS3. Panasonic has announced firmware upgrades for its S1, S1R, S1H and S5 full-frame mirrorless cameras, which extend the degree to which the four models share features and performance levels. Autofocus: DFD contrast AF To shlep such weight and size around I tolerate only the best handheld IQ solution money can buy. He doesn't care about the size of his gear (using a Hasselblad)An other is doing portraits, mostly hand held, he is holding his camera all day, mostly inside his studio, sometimes in nature. Does the new Lumix S1 have what it takes to compete with the likes of the Sony A7 III, Nikon Z6 and Canon EOS R? DJI's second-generation Pocket camera includes a long list of useful upgrades including a wider, faster lens, a larger sensor, more resolution, improved audio and an optional handle that significantly improves control and supports live streaming. So DPreview will focus on judging this camera as a still camera and AF tracking is where this camera is nowhere near the best. So if you have a 2kg lens, you want your camera to weigh 2kg for the balance, so in total you're going to lift 4kg. And judging by your uneducated responses to this and other reviews I suspect the vast majority of you rarely or never use interchangeable lens camera of any type and that almost all of your photography occurs on a mobile phone. Learn where to place your supporting hand and you will be fine. From which you post your delightful little pics to Facebook and Instagram in order to get thumbs-ups and love hearts. So you won't buy it if it gets a Silver award? Shares. As it is better built than its siblings (A7-3? Second, your anecdotal experience means nothing. Both have full color information at each pixel but the Panasonic has increased spatial resolution. But for single-minded, professional stills … As we've found before with Panasonic cameras, the standard auto white balance setting is pretty reliable in natural light, but the Fine Weather setting tends to produce slightly more pleasing results. A battery grip (DMW-BGS1) is available for around $350. If you have any questions or comments about the Panasonic S1R or S system in general, please let me know in the comments section on the final page of this review. Yongnuo, makers of lenses, cameras and other photo accessories, has filed a patent for a modular mirrorless camera system. One is objective (physics) and one is subjective (perception). Not really. It is a natural assumption that something that is heavier and larger would be more durable. This is a great camera, no doubt about that, but there are some weak points coming with it (like with all cameras). @Thoughts R Us - "None of the mirrorless cameras have any track record to go on with regards to reliability...the Panny's, the Sony's, etc. Look at the Canon 1D and Nikon D5 pro series models, they are tanks and have a record of holding up in all sorts of extreme conditions. @jeffharis : Sony a7iii and a9 prove you wrong though, the battery life is amazing and they're mirrorless + small body. But since this site is the preserve of macho techie yahoo's no surprise it gets upvotes. Most cameras reviewed on this site receive a gold or silver award from the reviewers. "Arguably they failed because their potential market was not that impressed with side hinged lcd units. @pollup: obviously we can do this dueling analogy game ad infinitum. @Priaptor: At no point I'm saying Sony's ergo is the only way LOL. Weight: When you have to carry this camera a long day, compared with the A7III it is heavy and you will feel the difference...4. The S1/S1R Achilles heel is its contrast-detect autofocus system which Panasonic calls DFD (Depth From Defocus). Panasonic's first attempt with full-frame non-reflex is commendable but not competitive with Sony - the market leader. The best camera phone in 2020: which is the best smartphone for photography? Still happily using my GX8. The S1's 24Mp sensor strikes a nice balance between detail level and noise visibility. 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The S1 has a Camera Elo of 3533. I have nothing against either approach to what perceives a well balanced system as compared to your one track mind thinking there is only one answer. If that camera makes you happier than the others, then it's the right choice. Have a look at our initial sample gallery taken on a full-frame Sony body. Hey Panasonic...WAKE UP! Dust and splash protection. Not too big or too small, with a solid interface. I think a lot of the size/weight dismissers haven't even touched the camera. Gold Award, which is what it should have been given anyway. Not as good stills capability at VFM level with nominal video thrown in an attempt to pull the punters. Otherwise for most of videographers who shot manual or only occasionally in AF knowing their limits this is a great tool. If you need to, low ISO raw files can be brightened by as much as 5EV with a relatively modest increase in luminance noise. The Panasonic S1 is the cheaper, lower resolution hybrid model for those whose photographic diet is a mix of video and stills. Just because of the way that computational photography is emerging, I would not underestimate Panasonic. In fact it's kind of amazing that they got that high res mode to work even with some limited motion in the subject or among the photographer hand holding the unit. The market offers choice; one size does not fit all. The S1R … That's until Sony offers 10 bit but I don't see that happening anytime soon. Heck, I'm surprised they have lagged behind with the touchscreen on their cameras. First thing to say is I have no dog in this fight, I use MFT and not Panasonic. The S1 is the 24.2Mp model aimed at professional and experienced enthusiast photographers and videographers. The Panasonic S1 is a solid, high-quality camera that delivers superb video and stills in many situations, it only lacks in credentials as a sports camera. No price is given at this time, but the adapter is set to be available by the end of the year. For a bare-bones kit, the S1 plus the Panasonic 24-105mm f/4 isn’t a bad choice at all, and that combo totals a fairly reasonable $3400. If you look at cameras which got gold award, many of them have serious issues but reviewers claim Pros are so good that Cons aren't that important. Panasonic Lumix S1 Review - The 24mp S1 is Panasonic's full-frame mirrorless camera, offering DSLR styling and controls, with a high-resolution electronic viewfinder. What’s the best camera for less than $1000? Panasonic have enjoyed a lot of success with their Micro Four Thirds camera range, and now they've turned their attention to the full-frame market with the release of the exciting new Lumix S1R. • Best cameras for vlogging Mainly, though, it is Leica M glass that is bolted to my SL, and love the combination of the two. People who buy this camera later will have to pay to get that upgrade. Yet you are so critical of professional camera systems. Personally, I sort of agree. 22.8K ; photo by JacobLund via iStock. If the user doesnt tell the camera to track faces, the AF-C still performs OK and delivers sharp shots, but the OVF preview blinkles, which the tester didnt like. Again, a nonsensical and pointless comment by MILC man. At this price level, the new Sony A7 MkIV, for $500 more, just blew Panasonic out of the water. "Yes it is, in many ways except from number of pixels. There is no substantive track record of people using Sony in the toughest of conditions. If Panasonic had the auto focus of the sony Id buy it. But it isn't just Panasonic. The AF is very accurate though so when it locks it produces a sharp shot. It's cute how almost every 'con' section repetitively whines about "omg so big & heavy..". We're glad you asked. @Milcman: first I have tried the Panasonic S1R. Combining a 37MP full-frame sensor, minimalist controls and Lightroom Mobile built in, it's a refreshing – if a bit quirky – take on the smartphone-meets-camera concept. MILCman feels compelled to go into virtually every discussion of gear that is not Sony to trash talk that gear, even though he has never used it. How soft we have become. How does the new Panasonic S1 stand up to its mirrorless competition? This is hardly the behavior weâd want from a camera with pro-level aspirations.". If you want pro-level features like 10-bit capture, V-Log and waveforms, then you'll want this paid-for upgrade. Take a car...which car would you rather be in if you had an accident: a larger, heavier car or a smaller, lighter one? As for video, Panasonic did not outfit the S1 with full pro video specs out of the gate but even so, the video here is impressive if you do not need the best of the best specs and bitrates (I will have a full video review soon, with samples). @Thoughts R Us - "I have tried the Panasonic S1R.". Nikon's AF in video is much much better than DFD.I have camera with DFD and Nikon Z, so I know the difference. WhatsApp. He loves it when his camera is small and light. Read our Panasonic Lumix S1 Review; Continuous Shooting. I do acknowledge it still is a good option to have anyways. The Leica Q2 Monochrom is a version of the Gold Award-winning Q2 that only shoots images in black and white. Panasonic; Reviews; Leica lenses on the new Panasonic Lumix S1. And yes, the Sony trolls are annoying. Whether or not users on these forums see it, these processes are trends and are subject to change. If you opt instead for the S1R that this review covers, plus the 24-105mm, the price jumps up to $4600. So the assumption that (larger/heavier = durability) is not crazy, and may prove to be true with mirrorless. Also given the way you trash everything else besides Sony your claims about Sony are suspect. How does the Panasonic S1 stack up against the competition, like the Sony a7 III, Nikon Z6 and Canon EOS R? See our full Canon EOS R review. The Panasonic Lumix DC-S1R is the company’s high-resolution version of the Lumix DC-S1 full-frame mirrorless camera. With Pana at the leading edge in video/hybrids, electronics operability (e.g., EVF/LCD execution, etc); Sigma's Foveon sensor; Leica's overall command of 'gestalt', I hope and expect this system/family to eventually become the one with the most broad choices - different bodies optimized for different uses, all in the same mount native to fantastic optics (from all 3), also in a similarly broad price spectrum. Or even use a power bank and USB charger. Announced in September 2018 and previewed in February 2019, it’s one of two Cameralabs Camera reviews, lens reviews, photography guides And they will love the build quality and files they get. I just looked at the studio test scene. NO my mind is not fixated as yours is on Sony. But for me the S1 ticks most of the boxes. All content, design, and layout are Copyright © 1998 - 2020 Digital Photography Review All Rights Reserved. What ever happened to DLSM advantage of compactness? @gfrensen : the points you listed, namely 1, 2, 3, 5, 6, are very important to me, and each of them is a deal breaker actually, so that makes 5 deal breakers, lol. (The two million dollar question is if to wait for the imaginary Sony a7S III). It's an easy question. Also the upcoming full VLog firmware which will be free for current owners will give you: 4K UHD up to 30p, 10-bit 4:2:2 internal recording (At 150Mbps). If it were possible that may change people's perception of different cameras and indeed the whole size/weight issue. Our favorite gear, rewarded: DPReview Awards 2020, DPReview TV: Battle of the 70-200mm F2.8 zooms (Canon, Nikon, Sony, Panasonic), Panasonic firmware shares more features across S1, S1R, S1H and S5, Panasonic firmware brings 5K recording to S1R, updated autofocus to S1, S1R, S1H, Panasonic interview: 'If we stay united I think we will survive'. For YouTube or most content creation, the fact is even 1080P today is still more than good enough. Better pixel shift tech? If it did, that would definitely make it a much more interesting camera. Most will become obsolete before their shutter breaks. In video. The Lumix DC-S1 ($2,499.99, body only) is one of a pair of full-frame cameras launched this year by Panasonic. Look, am not saying Nikon is a bad camera for videos, it's just not good comparable to S1 specially in videos, * good in comparison to S1 specially in videos. I dumped my Canon gear due to size and other things. Front and rear dials, plus a control wheel on the back of the camera and the excellent touch-screen also allow you to adjust settings quickly and easily. Plus you can use the S1 to hammer fragile dead sony bodies into fragments. NOT SO GOOD FOR: "Photographers requiring a top-notch autofocus system. It's also more sensitive in low light - 6EV. It is a bit weird if you try it for the first time to experience the hunting the the lens can do at times to acquire AF. I don't bother reading Sony or Canon reviews as I have no interest in their cameras or lenses and wouldn't waste my energy picking out bits of info from reviews to then spew forth inconsequential rubbish. I assume ratings/award is also relative to existing competition. Because of the EVF, manual focusing is not only ridiculously easy but fun. Looks like a great hybrid system for most people, although a bit expensive relative to the ( arguably ) benchmark A7m3, at least as far as amateur/enthusiasts are concerned.... Will be interesting to see how the Af system works for most people, as this is not intended to be a sports/action camera. 99 percent of people are shooting phones anyway, so having any camera like this makes you special. The S1 has a Camera Elo of 3533. @jeffharris It does and it also has a joystick near where your thumb rests like the GH5. likewise with the "substantially better-built" claim. The Panasonic Lumix DC-S1 is a mirrorless interchangeable lens camera that was officially introduced in February 2019 and is equipped with a full frame sensor. The Panasonic Lumix S1 is a great first full-frame camera from Panasonic, and one with which Panasonic has also established a distinctive model. Panasonic S1 Review -- Now Shooting! Not tried A9 yet, but compared to A7ii, DFD is lightening fast, lame it is not. Panasonic wants to attract the DSLR crowd, but this poor battery life is likely to be one of the main barriers. Verdict . On paper, the SL system seems the most promising and extensive. Yet the SL mount alliance decided that bodies and lenses must be big and bigger and weight more and more. Battery life (much shorter then the A7III2. ðGreg in San Antoniohttps://flic.kr/s/aHsmxcYVbq, "AF system less reliable than competition". The Panasonic S1 is the cheaper, lower resolution hybrid model for those whose photographic diet is a mix of video and stills. About cars, bad example, the main parameter is the speed, I'll rather crash in a small/light car at half the speed of a big/heavy car, because the force of impact will less than 1/4th. I don't usually write on these things, especially after 2001 prior comments! Outstanding EVF. It definitely open more photographic opportunities for me and make it more enjoyable than my Canon 5DIV. Correct. Panasonic S1 Review: The Slow Motion Alone Is Worth It Posted on May 13, 2019. The Panasonic S1 is not only the best-built 24MP full-frame mirrorless camera on the market (though it is heavy), it keeps up with the best of its competitors in most respects. The video AF section of our review is already based on Firmware V1.2. In a year when social distancing became a way of life overnight, Senior Editor Barney Britton maintained a small sense of connection via the Fujifilm X100V. You will receive a verification email shortly. The S1 is better than the A7 in some aspects but it arrives a year later and costs 25% more so any shortcoming, like less reliable AF, will make it hard to justify top score. Do you even know of Panasonic's past releases? So as a stills camera it's decent but not the best which is why i believe the silver award is justified not Gold. Saturday April 6, 2019. Guess im saving for the Sony A7R4 now. The Panasonic Lumix DC-S1 and the Panasonic Lumix DC-S5 are two enthusiast cameras that were revealed to the public, respectively, in February 2019 and September 2020. :). Cyber Monday camera deals in the UK: cameras, lenses, laptops + more, The best dash cam in 2020: constant protection for you and your vehicle, The best instant cameras in 2020 âÂ from best instax to best Polaroid cameras. Only time will tell. Its well built for sure but the first thing you notice when you pick it up is the weight. Weight: When you have to carry this camera a long day, compared with the A7III it is heavy and you will feel the difference...4. Except for pros the buyer base for high end camera gear is shrinking and aging. What is the sensor readout speed of the DC-S1, please?One can test this with an oscilloscope. Meanwhile, the 47.3Mp S1R is the high-resolution model aimed at pro stills photographers who may want to shoot video â check out our Panasonic S1R review. @s1oth1ovechunk: Experience with G9 and GH5 both of which have DPD Autofocus system, just like the S1/R. I can see why the camera is nice in alot of respects but associating a dog is just plain wrong. Definitely nailed the peculiar green-blue-gray of the leaves of those tulip plants.Deserves a gold medal just for that. Sensor: 24.2MP full-frame CMOS, 35.6x23.8mm I have made the same point: we don't know. Another reference to simple physics. The Panasonic Lumix S1 is a full-frame mirrorless camera with 24 MP, built-in stabilisation and 4k 60p video. Great camera for product photography or architecture, museum, that kind of things.The poor battery is really a killer, it's worse than what you get on the Z 6 and EOS R, but those 2 cameras are using small batteries, so their next iteration could use a bigger one, however Panasonic is already using a huge battery, probably their whole system is too power hungry. But I am surprised they haven't got anything like Panny's high res mode. The irony is that I basically agree with your premise that smaller/lighter doesn't necessarily mean less durable. This is a great all-round performer for shooting both still and video, with an excellent array of useful features for photographers and videographers alike. Regardless, I've used the camera to record my vacation in Europe and the files are much more beautiful than any Canon I've used and smaller. If I posted anything you would just try to tear me down. Need to ev +1 in high contrast shots. Launched alongside the 47 MP Lumix S1R, they’re Panasonic's debut bodies in their L-mount alliance with Leica and Sigma.Find out how the more affordable S1 performs for photos and video in my in-depth and updated review!… The S1/S1R have rugged bodies which can hold their own in the elements. I guess what goes around comes around. Comparing the two cameras is not fair as these are two cameras aimed at different interest groups.The Pentax is aimed at still photographers, doing video every now and then. ), the batteries are much smaller. It's for people who need to do both with an emphasis on very high quality video. The eye-af tracking ability of the A9 is intoxicating indeed, the first time I used it for event work I was positively gleeful. The resolution is almost 6M dots and the lag is only 5ms. There is no right or best answer: it comes down to individual preference. Just start with January 1, 2017 through the present and count the awards handed out for those reviews that are eligible. Why was it reviewed without its V-LOG video update which is only 10 days away? But for all other uses, the Panny AF will work fine. Senior Editor Barney Britton's Gear of the Year part two details how he ended up with a Reflex-Nikkor 1000mm F11, and despite its quirks, why it was ideal for a creative project in the COVID-era. That’s 6fps with continuous autofocusing (C-AF) and 9fps in single AF mode (S-AF). It's a hybrid camera. That'd be true if professionals are willing to buy into a new system that is not class-leading. Carry a couple extra batteries. @brendon1000 Yeah it may not have the best autofocus but for some that's not an issue at all. There aren't many cons that will prevent gold award. A silver award seems about right. @gfrensen why should people care that its mirrorless? The Primoplan 75mm F1.9 II is a redesign of the original Primoplan 75mm F1.9 designed in 1936. I imagine these guys shoot with one hand so they thought a better grip would help. @s2oth1lovechunk pentax has the patent for pixel shift. In addition, Nikon's new IBIS is very good and internal video is excellent too, in addition RroResRaw on Ninja is coming. The new camera will greatly benefit from the firmware update scheduled for later this year, so the appeal for videographers will be even higher. The authors describe a professional level camera that in many cases seems to be more than what the competitors offer, but then the rating is lower...Anyway Panasonic at its first fullframe has hit the target.The weight and size are not negative, on the opposite, they allow a better balance with heavier and more professional optics.There is time and space for a future SX rangefinder-style camera that will certainly be lighter and cheaper. Stop using physics even though you haven't demonstrated your understanding of the subject. This very strong rating puts it among the elite group of camera grand masters. It delivered a large majority of keepers even when tracking erratic moving targets. Please deactivate your ad blocker in order to see our subscription offer, We check over 130 million products every day for the best prices. The S1 bucks the trend of Canon, Nikon and Sony, but this is an attempt to steal uncommitted (and unreformed) DSLR customers from Canikon before they make the jump to mirrorless. And 4:2:0 10 bit Vlog is only for new users. => this is not a good assumption though, it's not scientific, just "feels solid". Panasonic has launched its new LUMIX S Series full-frame mirrorless cameras - LUMIX S1R and LUMIX S1. Panasonic launched the Lumix S1 and S1R with three of its own L-mount lenses: the Lumix S 24-105mm f4 OIS priced at $1299, the Lumix S Pro 70-200mm f4 OIS at $1699 and the Lumix S Pro 50mm f1.4 at $2299; both Pro lenses are collaborations with Leica and are, shall we say, reassuringly expensive, but the alliance means cheaper lenses will be available.
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